November 1, 2002: 12 at Union, 20 at Philippe's, 15 at Denny's. We talked about and tried putting slackware on skroo's HP laptop, Loud ass beeps on said laptop that won't go away, 10mbps verses 100mbps, viewing net traffic on half duplex switches, Verizon wireless absorbing Sprint PCS, virtual hosting price comparison, how the media thinks about hackers and 2600 in general (reference the NBC dude that talked with us all night).

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